| Author | Topic: How to Own Wal-Mart... |
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Philadelphia Regular |
posted 03-15-2006 03:55
Okay this scam basically works with PC Games, DVD’s, CD’s And Lower priced Console Games (PS2,Xbox & Gamecube) Ever notice those bargain bins in Wal-Mart that have unfamiliar low grade
movies? Take a Video Game, DVD or CD off the shelf bring it to a nearby bargain bin that has the most activity. Now simply place the product you would like to shoplift into the bin. Allow other people to shuffle around the other products to burry your merchandise. Once your item becomes unnoticeable begin to pretend as if you are digging through the bin to find something. However instead try to rip the shrink rap off your misplaced product. Perform this under all the other buried products. Remove the CD from the jacket and pocket it behind someone. Walk out the door. Depending where the bins are you might not have access to all DVD’s, CD’s etc. If not just take an item that is located outside of the electronics section. Questions: What is the best way to pocket a CD? Is it best to directly leave the store, or keep walking around? Please give your opinion on how to improve this scam… |
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Nocturnal Variant Regular |
posted 03-15-2006 04:01
You cannot just OWN Wal-Mart. You cant just MAKE it leave. Once its here, its here for good. *holds up sign* "its not safe to talk here meet me outside" |
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Philadelphia Regular |
posted 03-15-2006 04:03
Ignore the title, and give some tips. Okay? |
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btaylor74 Regular |
posted 03-15-2006 04:32
i used to do this samething it works pretty good |
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draco237 Regular |
posted 03-15-2006 05:29
TOO TIME CONSUMING! longer u spend in a store, better the chance security or LP will notice you |
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Radtacular Regular |
posted 03-15-2006 05:33
As you pull the disc out.. pull it out between two of those bargain bin dvd's and walk to a safe place with them.. pocket the disc then decide you dont want those dvd's and leave |
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roll2daspot Regular |
posted 03-16-2006 00:59
I know someone who got owned by wal-mart like a week ago, he worked there for like 6 months, then he stole a shitload of gift cards and activated them, then he tried to use them with his employee discount, of course he got busted/charged/fired. |
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sloppycomeshot Regular |
posted 03-16-2006 02:35
i've found a really easy way to get brand new PC games for 10 bucks. all you have to do is find the cheap $10 PC game section and pick up one of those but make sure the UPC is a sticker on the outside. (just make it look like you're reading the back of the games while you check for the sticker.) also pick up the new $50+ game you want. now go to the stuffed animal aisle or another equally unmonitored area and peel the UPC sticker off the cheap game and slap it over the UPC on the $50 game. find an old lady cashier and go through her line, she'll never know the game is supposed to be $50. the item will scan at $10 and "PC software" will show on the screen and receipt so you don't have to worry about the names of the games being similar at all. now leave the store and enjoy your new 80% off game! or go to another store and do a no-receipt-return with the game (remove the sticker first :P ) and then you just made a few bucks! you can also sell the games to your friends or on ebay for about 40 bucks. i did this a bunch of times and went to 4 different walmarts around my area and returned 2 games at a time per store! i just said my grandparents sent me the games for *random holiday* but i already had them. they gave me no problems at all and i ended up with $400+ credit on gift cards for walmart! in the end it cost me only $80 to do this, so i made a $300 dollar profit after selling the gift cards on ebay. you are much less likely to get caught "ticket switching" than if you just ripped the boxes open and stole the games. have fun!
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pengd0t Regular |
posted 03-16-2006 04:16
For an even better method, couldn't you just buy a $10 game, or peel the sticker if you could do it well enough, and take it home and scan it, then print it to a sheet of large labels. You could probably print several on a single label sticker then x-acto them out to an appropriate shape. You could manufacture a whole roll of the things. Also, does wal-mart use "store" coupons? If so, if you managed to get one of those for some miscelllaneous electronics item, you could use a coupon to get even more off of your newly ten-dollared game. Of course the coupon would be scanned, palmed or taken out of view otherwise, and some other piece of paper fed into the self-checkout. This seems like not a bad method at all. |
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Philadelphia Regular |
posted 03-17-2006 00:44
Thanks for the tips.... Looks like the three of your methods are better then mine. |
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fire_jade Regular |
posted 03-17-2006 03:40
If you wanna own wal-mart, you need to buy shares, slowly building up, until you own more than 51%. |
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splitter307 Regular |
posted 03-17-2006 03:47
there used to be this really dumb guy that worked at my local wal mart and some items need approval and shit in the self checkout and he used to stand right near me and put his code and password in...i used them to change prices on shit and everything..i got anything i wanted for about 1 dollar...you have to at least make it look legit.but be careful because the persoon that stands near the self checkouts has a monitor where they can see the screen of every self checkout..only do this when that person leaves their station to help a customer or something...if you can find the code and get this done, it works great |
| Author | Topic: car shopping help |
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splitter307 Regular |
posted 03-16-2006 18:25
hey guys i need some help robbing cars: what are the best places to do it without getting caught? what are some precautions to take? best ways of getting in (dont care if they notice) best place to do it as in the most stuff in the cars |
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bluefox Regular |
posted 03-16-2006 18:28
I gotta goto class but when I get back ill post some tips. |
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Experimental Regular |
posted 03-16-2006 19:00
Alot of what plays into car shopping is common sense. For starters, don't try a car with a light on the dashboard. Dark neighborhoods, without motion sensor lights. Large parking lots, but be careful for cameras (themepark parking lots are easiest and I have never known them to have cameras). Precautions... Wear good shoes, and if you have a buddy going with you have one on lookout and one stashing shit in a bag. Don't wear flashy clothing or be loud, more common sense things. Best ways of getting in? Open the door. You'd be surprised how many people forget to lock their cars, or just don't. Otherwise, I wouldn't try. When an alarm goes off it wakes up the neighborhood. If you can find a good upperclass area to car shop from, go for it. It's a high risk, which ups the reward. In my opinion a large themeparks parking lot or a beach parking lot is best. There's a topic on the beach one already, go look at that. |
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splitter307 Regular |
posted 03-16-2006 20:11
what we normally do is go to an apartment complex...we check for unlocked doors and if they arent, i have a bb gun and i just break the window and get in..its actually not that loud...after that we usually raid the car and then pop the trunk and check in there...what else can we do? |
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Experimental Regular |
posted 03-16-2006 23:19
Don't do that unless the apartment parking is seperate from the aparments, not in the middle of all the apartments. Don't break the window with a BB gun, first of all if someone catches you you're considered armed and second off you're breaking the window; nice way to leave traces. |
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jarmungand Regular |
posted 03-17-2006 03:33
Experimental is def. right, the BB gun is not worth bringing along just to break windows with. Won't a rock or your fist or a wrench work just as good? Breaking into a car and stealing from it is larceny, but if you have the BB gun when you're doing it it becomes robbery, which is a significantly more serious charge. If you're using a lookout make sure he's worth bring along. Every person you bring adds to risk; its just another person that could potentially rat you out to the pigs. The lookout should be keeping an ear on the police scanner and an eye on everything else. -j |
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Optionryder420 Regular |
posted 03-17-2006 04:57
Okay guys, you're breaking into cars, not doing some huge ass heists. I'll give a few pointers though. First, think about it, it's 1am-4am on a weekday night, you have work tommorrow and need your rest. You hear a car door open and slam shut, are you going to immediatly wake up and assume your cars getting broken into? No. You're suddenly woken by a car alarm(and by suddenly, I mean it takes you 10-15 minutes to realize wtf is going on) do you immediatly assume it's yours? No, you think "God damn neighbors need to turn that shit off." If it takes a while to turn off, you decide it must be yours and head outside. You're sleeping and hear glass break, do you immediatly wake up thinking your car window just got broken? No, you most likely don't even wake up, and if you do, to you it's just some damn drunks throwing bottles at the ground. Trust me, the only way of really getting caught doing this is if a car pulls up on you robbing their neighbors house. Or if a cop drives by. Do wealthier neighborhoods that are more secluded. They'll have the most unlocked cars due to their sense of security. Also, those type of neighborhoods will have quite a few unlocked cars with keys and open garages. If a motion sensor light goes off, who the fuck cares? People don't wake up suddenly to a light going off, they'll roll over and go back to sleep. At the most, if a motion sensor light goes off, just walk away. Wear gloves, if it happens that you only steal cash all night, and someone called the cops, you can ditch the gloves and you'll have a good court case to a win at the worst... Best scenario they'll just let you go. Park your car at the entrance or close to it of the neighborhood. Start deep in the neighborhood and work your way back to your car. BUT! Don't park too far, running from the cops all night would not be fun. If a car drives by at any time, just leave. AND, don't take your gloves off in front of a car, just put your hands in your pockets and act like you're cold or something. Come on guys, like some of you even said, it's common sense. Making a lot of noise is not a big deal, you can make quite a lot of noise and go unnoticed... even then though, be careful. |
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ShakeDown Regular |
posted 03-17-2006 05:23
the bb gun is kind of a good idea, it is quiet as hell hardly makes a shattering noise, i have never used it to car hop but i have shot windows out. the best way is to get somthing pointy and skinny becasue car windows are tempered, so it spiders and not shadders unless the force is concentrated. get one of thise deals with the poitny thing on it, a flash light, razor, and tire pressure gagues on it and use the pointy thing to break windows thats what its ment for and i have jacked about 20 of them. Hes right, people dont assume shits happening to them, so u can make
noise. they will blame it on those damn racoons tipping the garbage over or
maybe a deer in the back yard. it helps if you have had alittle to drink,
not drunk but enough so ur alittle more crazy, you will do it alot better
becasue u wont be tip toeing around. when somone drives by i usually just
hop in the car and flip on a light and act like im grabbing somthing from
it, they dont know its not ur car and if you just keep on with what ur doing
it looks legit, if you shut the door and walk away that looks suspecious. We used to jack shit and sell it on ebay, if your gunna do that change ur address and shit and wait a month or two before you sell it unless they check. i jacked a navigation system worth a grand and the dollar signs clowded my vision and i listed it too soon. just be smart and u wont get fucked, we were pulling at least 5 grand every 1-2 months sometimes more. its harder to get caught then hide the money from ur parents |
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bluefox Regular |
posted 03-17-2006 06:01
When it comes to car shopping, my favorite technique involves a you and a driver. As the driver drives down the street, he stops at every car w/o a blinking light. You hop out and quickly check to see if its open or not. If not, then jump back into your drivers car. He drives to the next car on the street and you jump out again. As soon as you have tried ever car on that side of the street, the driver drives around and you attempt the other side of the street. The driver is crucial. Without him, you would be spending HOURS on foot walking around neighborhoods looking for open cars. It is exhausting. The driver also is on constant watch for any signs of nieghborhood activity, cops, people, etc. His job is to be alert of the surroundings so you dont have to. You can concentrate on pilphering the opened car without needing to sketch out about your surroundings. If something bad arises, he gives the quick signal and you are back in his car in 2 seconds as if nothing happened. Sorry if this is long winded, im quite baked right now. But seriously, the driver technique is GREAT for car shopping. Anything found is split 50/50, with loose car change going to the driver for gas money spent. |
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Experimental Regular |
posted 03-17-2006 06:37
Along with bluefox's idea, if you DO get caught going and seeing if every car on a street is open or not, you can bullshit something about a school journalism report or an article for the paper you were working on as freelance, seeing how many people keep their cars unlocked at night. Security, awareness, neighborhood-friendly shit. Say that surveys wouldn't cut it, considering that people lie and the cold hard facts were needed. Anyway, have any of you ever been to/lived in Texas? I've been here my whole live in a number of neighborhoods/cities and everyone I know owns a gun. I've seen a light go off from a raccoon and a guy come outside yelling with a shotgun. There's always the possibility, moreso in some places than others, but don't get too cocky or used to this. If you become arrogant you WILL get fucked. If you see lights flip on anywhere in a house, get out of there. Not motion sensor lights, indoor lights. And no, I'm not a country hick/cowboy/any other generic texas redneck names you can think of. I live in a residential area but almost everyone here was raised with guns and we all hunt, if there is a theft the community protects itself. We don't even have alarm systems out here, but only one robbery has been commited in the past 5 or so years here. It's not because we don't have thiefs - trust me we do - but our dogs and people are more efficient than any alarm system. That brings up another point - every time our dog barks at something at night he gets let out. Good watch dog, he's caught someone watching our house from a forest across the street and someone walking behind our fenceline, not to mention countless animals. When you see a dog, hear a dog, or a door opening, get out of there or just go to the street and act like someone getting a jog. If the dog attacks you with no reason you can threaten you getting it put down, and that will silence the owners for sure. Optionryder420, I can only assume the worst and all preparations must be made. I don't know exact conditions of where he's shopping from, so I'm trying to cover all the bases. I'm sure you'd rather be prepared than in jail, yes? No offense either, a balance between both of our points along with all others in this topic must be made and custom tailored to any car shopping situation. |
| Author | Topic: Siphoning gas |
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Chronic The Hedgehog Regular |
posted 03-16-2006 20:31
I've decided that I am too good to pay for my gas from now on, I am also too good to suck on a hose to get gas, what I have decided is to buy one of these http://tinyurl.com/dpz37 and just stick the hose in someone's gas tank, fill up a jerry can and be on my way. I just thought I would post this so that you know there is a better way to get free gas then using your mouth as a pump. |
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boozehound420 Regular |
posted 03-16-2006 23:19
i already have one, only use it for emergencies though, and when ever gas gets over 1.00$ a litre |
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Experimental Regular |
posted 03-16-2006 23:22
I'll stick to my hose, thank you. Mouth's working fine, don't need to spend my money on that. Maybe when I get some extra cash and gas becomes a real fucker, I might get one of those. Good idea, but not for me right now. |
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Chronic The Hedgehog Regular |
posted 03-17-2006 04:42
Did you have to make any mods to it to get it to work right, like could you remove that gas tank from the tube and pump? |
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chubbyman25 Regular |
posted 03-17-2006 06:53
Holy crap, that's almost $4 a gallon. I don't think I've ever seen it over $2.50 a gallon As far as syphoning, syphon pumps are really easy to get. Syphoning by mouth is about the stupidest idea ever. |
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Experimental Regular |
posted 03-17-2006 07:39
I might end up shelling out some cash for one or something, but not right now. No need at the moment. |
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driveby Regular |
posted 03-17-2006 08:10
It got over 3.00 a gallon where I live after Katrina. |
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Chronic The Hedgehog Regular |
posted 03-17-2006 15:28
I live in canada, we pay by the liter, and right now its at like 1.03 a liter, thats just too damn much. |
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boozehound420 Regular |
posted 03-17-2006 21:28
ya i just cut the hose, the hose is the perfect size to fit down in it too, since its about the same size as the gas station pumps and ya gas is a bitch, here right now its 1.00 a litre in the city, 0.89 in the valley wich is retarded, we supply the US with half there oil, and the US needs more so were just giving all our oil to them, wich makes our prices go up. FUcken BULLLSHIT, my regal downs the fucken gas too, 20$ a day minimum |
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jungle1 Regular |
posted 03-18-2006 04:37
Fuck Gas! Buy a hydrogen conversion from UnitedNuclear.com when they start sellin that shit! You're all tools. |
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IPhantom Regular |
posted 03-18-2006 06:35
i dont understand why syphoning gas would be considered a bad idea to
begin with. |
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Equality 7-2521 Regular |
posted 03-18-2006 07:16
I'll go out on a limb in saying it's a bad idea because it's stealing. Anyone still use their mouth or is that out these days? |
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Sebastian the Small Regular |
posted 03-18-2006 09:58
Holy crap, that's almost $4 a gallon. I don't think I've ever seen it over $2.50 a gallon As far as syphoning, syphon pumps are really easy to get. Syphoning by mouth is about the stupidest idea ever.[/B][/QUOTE] Obviously your not from australia we havent been lower then $1.20 a liter in a long time *crys for our broke back pricing* |
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Canis_Major Regular |
posted 03-18-2006 12:52
thats all very well but most cars have locks on the petrol tank... and $1 a litre? thtas cheap compared to over here, its £1 a litre in most places which is £1.75! |
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Sk8erfreak986 Regular |
posted 03-18-2006 17:37
The united states has the cheapest gas prices in the world that's why we shouldn't be complaining... |
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Insane Worm Regular |
posted 03-18-2006 20:32
I was under the impression that most new cars have screens over the tank to prevent syphoning. |
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fire_jade Regular |
posted 03-18-2006 22:34
They do, these kids are all lying |
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300ZXZ31 Regular |
posted 03-18-2006 23:07
ha ha you yanks complaining about your fuel prices, in the uk I pay £1.08 for my fuel per litre. So thats like $2.00 a litre.... |
| Author | Topic: Confusing the cashier into giving you a dollar |
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APguy Regular |
posted 03-18-2006 19:49
When you're getting change, and it's a whole number with an ammount of coins under 50 cents, give the cashier that ammount and she'll add up to 50 cents in order to give you a whole dollar. For example: Profit! This works most of the time, especially with new cashiers. |
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Jessica1610 Regular |
posted 03-18-2006 20:11
ooor you could go to the burger king in kingston NY order 15 dollars in
food , hand the lady at the drive thru a 20 and get 15 dollars back.
[This message has been edited by Jessica1610 (edited 03-18-2006).] |
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Cent Regular |
posted 03-19-2006 02:43
huh |
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killer in da shadowz12345 Regular |
posted 03-19-2006 03:20
i used to do this wehn i was like 12 or sumthin n i made about 200 bux total, now i jus bring a gun and demand they show me da money |
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fabrication of the mind Regular |
posted 03-19-2006 03:51
APguy, you’re such a hustler. Why would such a witty con man like you be dabbling in this small time business propaganda? ... |
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Millixion Regular |
posted 03-19-2006 04:48
Why would he give you an extra dollar? If he/she could simply do math, which, if I'm not mistaken, is a prerequisite to getting a cashier job, he/she should just give you the right ammount of change. |
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joecaveman Regular |
posted 03-19-2006 06:18
I work a cash register. That is ridiculous, NO ONE is going to get confused if you give them a quarter, you couldn't get a toddler to fall for that. I call bullshit, you haven't made any money from this. |
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seekr Regular |
posted 03-19-2006 17:54
That scam is old and cashiers/managers already know about it. If the cashier gets confused, they'll either close the drawer and call the manager, or just simply call the manager. |
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carmine Regular |
posted 03-19-2006 18:08
Buy something under $1, hand them a 20. Seem dissapointed at the mass amount of change, ask if you can exchange for a 10. Hand them a 5 and 4 ones AFTER they give you the 10. Tell them that your not sure if its enough, so they'd better count it. Sure enough, its not enuff, so you say, y'know what, i'll go with a 20, and hand them a 10 and a 1. Then, you walk out of the store 10 bucks richer, because you gave them a 10 dollar bill that was already theirs. I've made at least $500 doing this. carmine |
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TweEeKeR Regular |
posted 03-19-2006 18:59
Thats genius. [This message has been edited by TweEeKeR (edited 03-19-2006).] |
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deathcultNBS Regular |
posted 03-19-2006 19:14
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jessica1610: |
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DeadlyAssassin Regular |
posted 03-19-2006 22:45
Actually, most places do not make you take a math test because the computers do the math for oyu..... when its busy and you total it out an cash it then the customer says oh i have change and hands you an additional quarter it is quite easy to mess up. |
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Fate Moderator |
posted 03-19-2006 23:36
You would be surprised. There are a lot of stupid motherfuckers who cannot make change and a lot of them can only land jobs either flipping burgers or ringing up burgers. I used to work in retail as a cashier, too. People would try to pull that jive shit on me and I'd call them out on it. But I worked with people who were so dumb that they would have fallen for it. It's the public school education at work. These kids cannot do math. I know, I got chewed up and spat out by the public school system along with everone else, and I didn't turn out too much more fucked up than I already was when I went in. But picture yours truly not a week ago, standing in the Arby's on business 30, purchasing his daily regimen of grease, salt, and cheese to the tune of 6.41 and handing the woman at the register seven dollars. This woman is normal by all outward appearances. Usual compliment of teeth and hair. Not wearing a crash helmet or knee pads. Looks like she can dress herself and tie her own shoes. Judging by the fob on her uniform belt loop, trusted by the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania to operate a motor vehicle on its public roads. She seems to be hemming and hawing a lot over the cash drawer. Looking at me sort of anxiously. Something's wrong. Aparently her Idiot Readout is broken - The computer hasn't told her how much change to give me. This woman cannot count out change. Which is in and of itself bad enough. I mean, I've known plenty of people who couldn't come up with the difference between 700 and 641 without having to work it out. Hell, I used to work with some pretty hopeless cases. But this! This takes the cake. She calls the manager over. The manager just kind of looks at us both funny. She puts her hands on her hips, she's squinting at the cash drawer and at the screen. What is this, did I hand her a three dollar bill? The manager can't make change, either. They're both doing that thing that people do when they're trying to figure out some insurmountable math problem without writing it out on a napkin. They're moving their lips silently, the cashier is still hovering over the cash drawer pensively like it's a box of live snakes; The manager is counting things out on her fingers. Finally, I give up. "It's 59 cents," I mention. "Really?" "Yes, really. Look, just subtract 41 from 100, right?" "Oh. Uh, thanks." I should have told her it was eight bucks. She probably would have believed me. And in this case, I wasn't even trying. The both of them are lucky I was feeling honest. See, these are the sort of people it will work on. They can't count, they can't add, they can't subtract. If the display on the cash register isn't telling them exactly what to give you they stand there like a deer in headlights. And if they punch in the tender wrong! Well, suffice to say I've made a ten dollar profit (one to many zeroes on the keypad) many a time by various dolts who don't even notice the discrepency and figure "the computer is always right". The fact that they're giving me more than I gave them doesn't even seem to register. It's like their brains don't work and the numbers mean nothing. Incredible, really. |
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black_light Regular |
posted 03-20-2006 23:18
thanks to technology and lazyness i get to punch in what they give me and the computer tells me the change, amazing! and when ever people are like oh wait i think i have change i just tell them its too late. |
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Floppy Titties Regular |
posted 03-21-2006 03:49
Confusingb the cashier into taking a dollar is by far the most difficult. |
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Jessica1610 Regular |
posted 03-21-2006 18:07
haha yea. Its ohsnapitsjenn126 |
| Author | Topic: stealing copper |
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sawed_off_pump Regular |
posted 03-19-2006 16:28
what do you guys think about stealing an ass load of copper and taking it to the scrap metal place and selling it? i know where a trailor used to be in the woods and they moved it recently and havn't been back to get the pipes and things, but have them all layed out for the taking. |
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Havoc737903 Regular |
posted 03-19-2006 18:24
My dad gets scrap copper wire from work sometimes and you can get good money for it. If they are to ask you at the scrap yard why you have copper, say your dads a pumber or something. It's good stuff if you can get a lot of copper. |
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sawed_off_pump Regular |
posted 03-20-2006 23:59
yeah i got $326 in my pocket right now. that was really lucrative. i still owe the rent though. im thinking of going around to construction sites and stealing the air conditioning copper pipes. i made way over $200 in less than a day. although some things i stole were brass and looked like copper, but i got 83 cents a pound for that too. i got $1.20 per pound for the copper, copper and brass i had about 210 pounds all together. im getting another pistol tommorrow it'll only cost $200. and i still have $20 of crack and a dog i can breed. i took some losses in the past weeks, but im still ahead and i still have plenty of guns and money. kids, crime pays! [This message has been edited by sawed_off_pump (edited 03-21-2006).] |
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Whiteboy5000 Regular |
posted 03-21-2006 00:36
You like that, dont you? |
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Lynk Regular |
posted 03-21-2006 01:39
Yep... Yo, not y\to go off topic but how did you killing the dealer end out?
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h0ppinlowrider Regular |
posted 03-21-2006 01:44
OMG nigga your alive! Whats good man....Dont know much about stealing copper but on the show "The Wire" some crack heads do it and make some money. I was thinking about stealing/finding scrap metal and selling it but I cant find a place that takes it near me. Damn Nigga Your Alive! How did that thing work with the crack dealer? |
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toker420 Regular |
posted 03-21-2006 02:00
damn dude post an update |
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justin1635 Regular |
posted 03-21-2006 02:30
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Andreas Regular |
posted 03-21-2006 06:01
What is copper, like 2 USD a lb? |
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whiteymoza Regular |
posted 03-23-2006 15:55
We were working on a shitty estate left the hot water cylinder outside (woth about £30) it was gone in 5mins at the same place I caught three chavs and an old man trying to steal the copper pipes from the tubes on top of the van. Cunts |
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Fate Moderator |
posted 03-23-2006 16:14
You'd be surprised how lucrative scrapping can be compared to a lot of the other scams and half-jobs you could be wasting your time doing. Favorites are copper and brass, which fetch a pretty high price per pound for raw metals. Aluminum also. We've also had guys trying to steal our 48x40 pallets, because they're worth 5 to 10 bucks a pop if you haul them to the right place. The auto shop behind our store had all kinds of problems with scrappers. They'd pull a motor (or part of one) from a car and set it aside to work on something, and a couple of times some fucker came right up in broad daylight, plain view, and tried to take the motor these poor guys were still working on. They also had a couple of cars stolen from their lot, though by defnition all cars that had something wrong with them. They also lost some rims and tires from parked cars. I imagine that stuff's got to be worth something to somebody, otherwise nobody would bother. When I left the store we'd pretty much scared off every scrapper in town
both from our place and the neighboring auto shop, because both myself, the
ownder of the store, and his son are gun toting lunatics and sooner or later
everybody knew it. [This message has been edited by Fate (edited 03-23-2006).] |
| Author | Topic: Easy way to make $$$$$$$$ |
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boozehound420 Regular |
posted 03-22-2006 15:20
this is for the all you people who post "i need 100$ HELP ME" Every city must have multiple metal recycling plants like mine does, well BRING SOME FUCKEN METAL TO THEM right now im doing some work on a 10 million dollar house and they have piles of copper laying around left over from parts of the roof, I grabbed a fairly large armfull and threw it in my car, little did i know copper sells for 5000$US a tonn, i got 125$ for what i could carry in my arms. Plans are in work to take the entire pile wich would be worth atleast 5000$, problem is my dad has worked on and off for these people for 5 years, alont with my dads subtrade buddies, and they alll know about the copper the good thing about copper is its fucken heavy, if you can find a pile of the copper piping used for plumbing in a house that shit is fucken heavy, especially when there 15 feet long, im hoping to find a supply yard with alot of copper thats eazy to take stainless steele is also worth alot, i took in a stainless steele sink that was about to get thrown away and got 15$ for it, it was only a 1 sided one also but if you cant find any of the better metals just take in plain old steele, if you fill the box of a truck with steele its probly 500-1000$ worth, but ill stick with the copper [This message has been edited by boozehound420 (edited 03-22-2006).] |
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Don
Quixote Regular |
posted 03-22-2006 16:24
Don't steal it from a metal yard, they'll put a call out and when you go to trade it in, even if they buy it, you're fucked. |
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boozehound420 Regular |
posted 03-22-2006 18:04
how you figure, if i were to take say 500 pounds of copper piping, cut it into random sizes and take it in to the farthest metal recycling place from the spot where i got it what the fuck can they do first they dont care where the hell you got it from, and if they did ask you could just say my dads a plumber and wants me to clean out his van even if you were to steal a full tonn of copper, just trade it in slowly
over amonth |
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Don
Quixote Regular |
posted 03-22-2006 18:13
I guess you could also trade in small amounts to a lot of different places. |
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eclipsed88 Regular |
posted 03-22-2006 19:14
titanium is worth a lot aswell, prices on it tripled just this year. but the only places you will find titanium are on BMX bike parts, space ships, and some motocross parts. |
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Ozzy
Osbourne Regular |
posted 03-22-2006 20:04
and spark plugs |
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boozehound420 Regular |
posted 03-23-2006 04:03
ya titanium is worth a fucken shitload, i just mentioned copper cause its worth it for the amount of it you can find you can get platinum out of cadilac convertors, so if you can find a big ass pile of them in an auto recker or something and take them for free go for it, never know, a box full might be enough to make a ring |
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Tech_AceSpades Regular |
posted 03-23-2006 04:16
hmmm... i shud raid the local hardware store... ... yea... or break into sumones house and jack thier under-sink pluming... jk |
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gadzooks Regular |
posted 03-24-2006 06:24
Dude... you live in Surrey? Surrey, BC? |
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boozehound420 Regular |
posted 03-24-2006 16:10
i live near surrey ya.... |
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bluefox Regular |
posted 03-24-2006 20:09
There was a thread on the money money money (MMM) board here at TOTSE about stealing Aluminum Ladders out of sheds and stuff, and taking them to the recycling plant. Im not sure why that thread wasnt in BI, but whatever. Unfortunatly, it only pays 60 cents per pound of aluminum, so it isnt as cost effective as copper tubing. Yannow, stealing from Lowes is mind-numbingly easy, and I was thinking maybe stealing some copper tubing from there would be easy money? Obviously you could only go for small sections of copper you could fit down your pants leg, but if you hit up 5 Lowes, it might be worth it. I dunno, im thinking out loud here. |
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Fate Moderator |
posted 03-24-2006 20:16
You have to factor in risk versus reward, not to mention how much gas you're going to burn going to different stores, stealing four bucks worth of copper, hauling it around, and then driving to the scrap yard. I think the most feasible way to do it would be to obtain a large haul from someplace all at once, but in most cases other people have laid claim to the copper before you. For instance, even if they're knocking down a house the contractors (or whomever) are probably just as keen on cashing that stuff in themselves as you are. They're not stupid, you know. Perhaps with luck (and a pickup truck, maybe a few friends) you could make off with a pallet of the stuff while it's being delivered or unloaded to somewhere, or if it happens to sit idle at a construction site or similar. Stealing large quantities from a store obviously isn't going to work, because making off with one ten foot section of pipe is tough enough, let alone a whole pile of them. An interesting proposal, though, would be to back a truck up to the loading dock of a Home Depot or similar, get a couple of guys in contractor looking gear (fake uniforms with a fake company name would be an interesting proposition) and with the aid of a fake work order and receipt and some real brass ones, load up a quantity of the stuff as if you bought it. When we were young and unemployed, a few friends and I made some quick cash scrapping railroad spikes. Nowadays that would probably get you in trouble, but back then we enjoyed warm, idylic summers where people didn't stick their noses into your business and Columbine and 9/11 hadn't happened yet to cast suspicion on everybody. Anyway, steel is worth about 35 cents a pound these days and we made maybe 20 back then. Figure each railroad spike is worth about a quarter and you've got at least something. The railroad tracks near us were a quadruple line, and as they repaired things the crews would tend to just leave the old materials there. It was common to find piles of hundreds of railroad spikes (remember that there are usually four on each side of each tie) just lying there for the taking. We also nicked and cashed in those plates that the rails sit in, the big auger screws that hold down the electrical lines, and even felled (and disconnected!) chunks of the copper electrical line itself. Other scrappable metals are aluminum, zinc, brass, tin, and even plain iron. [This message has been edited by Fate (edited 03-24-2006).] |
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bluefox Regular |
posted 03-24-2006 21:07
Good point. Nix the stealing the metal from Lowes idea lol. As you hinted Fate, the railroad idea would be much more difficult to pull off post columbine/911. If someone saw me lifting up railroad spikes, it would be easy for them to assume I was attempting to sabatoge the rails and derail the train. Now obviously just finding a area of railroad track with no people around is easy...but it might not be worth the effort for 25cents/spike. If I had a LARGE truck, I would concider snatching pallets from behind stores. Recycling plants give $1.50 per pallet according to that thread I referenced earlier. Pallets are easy enough to find, go behind walmart and there are 10-20 old pallets just lying there. Problem is the size of them. If anyone has a large truck, you might wanna concider doing this. Still though, pallets are fucking huge and might not be worth the effort. Im trying to think of places that would have scraps of valuable metal. There is a National Welders warehouse nearbye my house. I might go DDing around that place. Obviously constructions sites are hit and miss. You might find some good
quantities of metal...but you always have to contend with surrounding
buildings and people hearing your activities. Hauling metal, no matter what
kind, out of a dumpster into a truck bed or car is going to make ALOT of
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Fate Moderator |
posted 03-24-2006 21:54
Well, we weren't pulling up spikes and metalwork that was in use. Just the stuff that was lying around. But it was a lot of work for not much money. A minimum wage job would probably be more profitable; Steel is heavy and doesn't pay much by the pound. But it's better than nothing. If you're getting paid 1.50 each for pallets you're getting ripped. The place my old boss took them to gave him 5 bucks a pop, if I recall, and I've heard of higher. But I imagine it varies. Note that the only pallets you'll be able to sell are the 48x40 4-ways (say it ten times fast) which are the 'standard' resuable pallet and are identifiable by the fact that they measure 48x40 and have cutouts in the side supports that allow a forklift to pick them up from all four directions. Any other pallet is as we affectionately refer to them, a shit pallet. They're good for firewood or maybe a one way trip for some cargo. But nobody will buy them, because they're usually flimisier and manufacturers make them however they please, which means they're all different shapes and sizes, weight ratings, and a mismatched batch of them will never stack right. |
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acid_drop Regular |
posted 03-24-2006 22:52
So how many of those pallets do you think I can get in the back of my bro's Chevy with the long bed? They wouldn't lay straight so I'd have to lay them at an angle in the bed, up against the side. Also where would accept them? This pallate idea is a very good one if you have the means to move them I'd assume. |
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gadzooks Regular |
posted 03-24-2006 23:02
Where are the metal recycling plants around here? Are they in the phonebook? How did you find them? |
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BobDude Regular |
posted 03-24-2006 23:09
One of my friends told me about house stripping. If you know a house is abandoned or going to be knocked down, raid it and grab all the metal you can. He has made tons of money doing this. Imagine knowing an office building is going to be knocked down in a week, and they usually won't remove the copper that is in the cellings for pipes. Just go in, tear the place up, and make a few hundred dollars. I also just remembered, there are dumpsters where TONS of scrap metal are dumped, as there is tons of construction scrap metal. My mom owns a company that provides containers for people who need to dispose of organic or metal waste, and they hold about 5 tons. Just jack some metal in the container and profit.~BobDude |
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Fate Moderator |
posted 03-24-2006 23:17
The boss has a Ford F250, I think, and it's got a toolbox across the front of the bed. If you stick the pallets in lengthwise, so to speak, with the shorter 40" side facing the cab they fit between the wheel wells. What we did was gather up a stack of about fifteen with the forklift and make sure we got 'em as straight as we could. Then we'd load one stack as far as the forklift could load it into the bed. Then we'd take a second stack of the same size, and use it to push the first stack to the front of the bed. With the tailgate down two stacks would fit with part of the second resting on the tailgate. If we took the toolbox off we could probably fit two stacks in and close the gate. We never went much higher than twenty or so because it starts getting pretty precarious. Anyway, to keep the things from flying away we used ratcheting tie down
straps to secure both stacks. Drive carefully when you have a fuckton of
pallets on your truck, because if you lose that load and you peg somebody's
car you'll probably be liable. |
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acid_drop Regular |
posted 03-24-2006 23:38
I assume they are light enough for two guys to lift? Me and a friend could manage it, i mean it's just wood right? We'd have to load one by one, but no big deal. |
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sweepingjaguar Regular |
posted 03-25-2006 02:04
What is a pallet? |
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Fate Moderator |
posted 03-25-2006 03:18
A pallet is the square wooden thing made of boards that cargo comes on, as in the thing that enables a stack of whatever to be picked up with a forklift. Not a native English speaker? A 48x40 probably weighs about 25-35 pounds, empty. Anybody who isn't a total wuss can pick one up. I used to toss those things around three at a time, and I'm a pencil necked geek who gets sand kicked in his face by burly guys at the beach. You shouldn't have much problem. It's faster with a forklift, but it's one of the perks of doing it legitimately. [This message has been edited by Fate (edited 03-25-2006).] |
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spazz Regular |
posted 03-25-2006 03:25
yes they are light. one guy could pick one up |
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boozehound420 Regular |
posted 03-25-2006 19:02
im really fucked up right now, but you guys missed my point, fuck the pallets, here the hindus pay 2.50 a pallet no matter what but thers the orange painted ones that get you 8.00 each but you have to have proof that you were the guy who took them the copper idea is just a thought if you ever see a pile laying somewhere, after about a year the copper is not shiny anymore, it goes a dark brown, then even longer it will turn green just keep you eyes open |
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Peter_Griffin Regular |
posted 03-25-2006 21:17
stainles steel is worth way more, ever had to buy a SS butterfly nut? $1.39 for a piece of metal no bigger than a quarter |
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Golden Ferrinkaweasle Regular |
posted 03-26-2006 01:31
If your gonna break into someone's house, go for the good stuff not the plumbing you stupid cock sucker |
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FRESH Regular |
posted 03-26-2006 01:45
What parts of the BXM bike. I have one and i quit riding plus some fatass rode my bike and popped the wheel. |
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acid_drop Regular |
posted 03-26-2006 06:25
Unless you were serious about the sport and put in a good 800+ in your bike you have nothing but a piece of aluminum under you. |
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Don
Quixote Regular |
posted 03-26-2006 15:40
Just a note about taking metal from railways. We loaded some train track (that stuff is so very heavy) into the back of a friends' ute a few months ago to use to build a frame for his block and tackle... by the time we had it roped down, a cop car was heading down the hill towards us, screaming over their microphone to drop our weapons. Not actually having any weapons, and knowing this couldn't end well, we hopped into the ute and took off with what speed the ute could still manage, weighed down like that. We got away only because we knew the bush tracks decently. Everything is a terrorist threat these days. Word to the wise - keep away from train tracks visible from the road, learn your way around as much land as you can, and buy a four wheel drive. The frame works fine, by the way. |
| Author | Topic: Slim Jim Thread |
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Tokolosh Moderator |
posted 03-28-2006 18:30
I’m going to update this thread when I can with things like new pictures and video’s. What’s a Slim Jim? It looks like this: http://tinyurl.com/qdh5n It’s used to lift, or sometimes, push the lock in the car door to open it. This is achieved by inserting the Slim Jim between the car door window and the weather stripping. If the car hasn’t got a rubber weather stripping, or you just don’t want to cut it, a wedge should be used to create a suitable enough gap to slip it down there. When I bought my Slim Jim I got a little booklet with it, so I thought I'd scan it to show you it. Slim Jim's are not hard to obtain, all you need is a debit card and you can get them online. If you're from the UK, you can get them from sites like; http://www.topsecretmagic.co.uk/lockpicks.html If all else fails, you can always make one for yourself. Just get yourself a sturdy metal, coat hanger.
Anyway, here's the file, hope it helps. http://tinyurl.com/h4onx (Sorry for the sloppy scanning
Further Info Extracts from “Scuzzy-elo's - Bypassing Car Locks” Guide:
P.S. DizzIe just recently e-mailed me that he's edited some of the text to bring the file size down for our beloved 56k users. Link at: http://tinyurl.com/msd32 Side Note: DizzIe's also compiled a guide on scanning, so check that out: http://tinyurl.com/kmjgn Whilst on the subject, we'd very much appreciate it from any user to do a nice bit of a scanning here and there from any guides/pages/booklets/books/etc that you may have that will help the BI forums. Thanks. |
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TroyMcClure Regular |
posted 03-28-2006 20:22
you're goin down, motherfucka! |
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Docta? Regular |
posted 03-28-2006 21:07
Hi Tokk, remember me?! So the majority of us know what little we need to know about slim jims. With the security market these days, with road vehicles in mind, arent these little devices antient history? For example, what cars released in the past two years can be broke into using a slim jim? |
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Fate Moderator |
posted 03-28-2006 21:11
My wager would be most of them. Now, setting off the alarm is a different story. But for the hypothetical of locking your keys in your car (say) you could just get 'em off the seat and shut the thing up. |
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bully42001 Regular |
posted 03-29-2006 00:27
Snap into a slim jim ohh yeah |
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niteopsninja Regular |
posted 03-29-2006 00:46
HAHAHAHHAHA Damit! that gave me a smile 
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VegetaRobGT Regular |
posted 03-29-2006 05:22
Slim Jims are yummy. |
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Don
Quixote Regular |
posted 03-29-2006 05:36
More details on making one from a coathanger? IE, what a finished coathanger one will look like. |
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Loc
Dogg Regular |
posted 03-29-2006 07:20
You must be on crack. You're telling me that EVERY car in the world is brand fucking new? Fuck no. This would be great in my country. I want a Slim Jim. Cheers, ToKo. |
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S510 Regular |
posted 03-29-2006 07:26
"File Transfer: Unavailable" |
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Docta? Regular |
posted 03-29-2006 17:37
Joyriding has never been my thing, and I fail to see the point of
stealing an old car... |
| Author | Topic: wuts a really easy ass way to get like $100 in a week? |
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th3dud3 Regular |
posted 03-19-2006 21:04
i need about $100 like in a weeks time, anyone know a REALLY EASY way to get some money? but no fuckin vending machine scam bullshit or anything like that |
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elevenths Regular |
posted 03-19-2006 21:07
Why do so many people think that there is a super easy way to make a lot of money? I really dont get it. Sell drugs, or steal it. Neither is especially easy, as it entails risk. Otherwise get a job. |
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davetolomy Regular |
posted 03-19-2006 21:19
There are so many ways to make easy money. You just need to research and practice at home. Here's a short con for you. If you hit ten different cafe's for 7 days you should get loads. The "Free Money" con: Look for someone sitting on their own at a cafe table with a wallet or phone at the table. Now bend down to tie your laces about 3 metres away. Whilst your down there slide a coin of a high vaule under the table. Now double back and walk past them. As you go past say: "Hey mate there's some money there" They'll see it and bend under the table to get it. Quickly take the item and pocket You should do it quickly enough so you hardly stop moving |
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Andreas Regular |
posted 03-19-2006 21:35
-_- |
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w33dmastr Regular |
posted 03-21-2006 01:41
Another really easy one to do is fencing off your goods from shoplifting if you are in highschool. Steal some JD or high-cost bottles of Cough syrup such as Delsym or a lot of other kinds and sell it on the cheap side. JD can be worth $10-20 to highschoolers easy, so five bottles or so is enough to make $100. |
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Tarnak Regular |
posted 03-21-2006 04:22
He can't get a job or make money selling drugs in just one week from ground 0. Run up to someone, hit them until they fall over, take their wallet, run.
Repeat until you have $100. |
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mikemayberry Regular |
posted 03-21-2006 04:49
sell your blood plasma twice. |
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draco237 Regular |
posted 03-21-2006 05:27
collect cans on the street like the bum u truely are |
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Loc
Dogg Regular |
posted 03-21-2006 05:43
Yeah. Or you can wait in the shadows near an ATM and wit for someone to take out cash, run up, bust their head in with a pipe and take the cash. Wear a mask so the camera don't catch you. |
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Risk Regular |
posted 03-21-2006 08:00
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Adrenochrome Regular |
posted 03-21-2006 08:17
Selling child porn on TOTSE. |
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Azankenn Regular |
posted 03-21-2006 08:20
I hear sperm goes for quite a bit too |
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Jayo Regular |
posted 03-21-2006 13:03
in the uk there is a program on the bbc called "Hustle". Last friday had loads of small cons, including the money under the table beast. but they are fictitious characters that are fictitious professionals. but got alot of good ideas. |
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pyrozarc Regular |
posted 03-21-2006 14:27
Yeah that program fucking owns. Also if you're in the UK, there is another program at 10.30pm on Thursday called "The real hustle", which shows a lot of short cons. Its on BBC3. Both of the shows are useful for learning stuff like that. Does anyone know any links to pages with details on short cons? |
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rogueop Regular |
posted 03-21-2006 15:19
A sperm/plasma donation plan would almost surely get you at least $100 for the first week. Subsequent plasma donations are not rewarded quite as much, but I'm not sure about sperm. Or you could sell coke. |
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Niggers_With_Attitude Regular |
posted 03-21-2006 16:07
i think they give you $60 a pop for plasma "donations" but you can only do it once or twice a week and you can't smoke weed |
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Charlie Lucky Regular |
posted 03-21-2006 16:39
Work for me |
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Criminal Money Regular |
posted 03-21-2006 16:57
Break into about 100 cars a night for a week and trust me you'll get loads. You can get from a couple of quid change to a high-tech laptop. Or you could stake out somebody's house for about five days, wait till you know they out and the house is completely empty. Then, if you a locksmith, pick they lock and steal they stuff. Or just break down the door and nick they stuff, leave no trace to you. If you worried that you left a trace just move a couple thousand miles away lol. That's a basic draft of B&E. Have fun! |
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Deep Regular |
posted 03-21-2006 17:17
never work there are other people around in the cafe, video cameras the people that work there, no way would one of those not see you take the wallet |
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davetolomy Regular |
posted 03-21-2006 21:55
God your a fucking idiot. Other people don't watch a complete stranger. The pick up takes two seconds. People that work there don't stand watching customers and you wouldn't pick a place with camera. It's misdirection and it fucking works. |
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Spinsta Regular |
posted 03-21-2006 23:11
Mow lawns, shovel snow, go do some work for people. Payday Loan? |
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BlackAbstract919 Regular |
posted 03-22-2006 00:35
Steal large amounts of candy (Sam's Club amounts) and sell them at a (non)fixed price in each class and during lunch. SIDENOTe - Doing this is illegal and you can get in trobule for it |
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DEADBEATDAD Regular |
posted 03-22-2006 00:38
Boost cars. |
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SpeakSoSoftly Regular |
posted 03-22-2006 08:22
get a part time job? working 20 hours a week can bring in $150 very easy. |
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Unregistered Regular |
posted 03-22-2006 12:21
Rob a convenience store, take the money home, return any excess money obtained (optional) |
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S510 Regular |
posted 03-22-2006 12:28
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Silver Cold Regular |
posted 03-22-2006 17:11
100 cars a night, unless he is the fucking flash that sounds a little
imposible, And if he needs a $100 in one week i dont think he is a
locksmith.. and you dont have to be a lock smith to know how to pick a lock.
and if you beak down there door how is that not leaving any trace of you [This message has been edited by Silver Cold (edited 03-22-2006).] |
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Omnis99 Regular |
posted 03-22-2006 19:25
depends on how much heart you got man.the mugging idea is extreme but if you really need it then you really need it.how about you find a bank that has a deposit slot that is away from main view.ride a bike up to it or walk wearing a beanie and some glasses.slide a bag in the slot and tape it on the inside.wait till 4 or 5 in the morn and get the bag out.there will prob be money in there.if you are lucky..alot.but dont forget those cameras! |
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niggersexual Regular |
posted 03-23-2006 02:08
If you don't need the money right away, working is the easiest solution. If people are going to break your legs by saturday, then contact a disciplinary official or follow them around and place banana peels by them so they slip and break their own legs. |
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Joebob Regular |
posted 03-23-2006 02:25
Well, at my school the vending machines are 65 cents for a can of whatever. So you put in a dollar, you get 35 cents. I figured, that's pretty good stuff so I ripped off the toll way scam and whenever I am in need of a extra few bucks, I'll stuff some kleenex in the coin slots and come back a day or two later. My school has cameras not that far away from the machines so I try to make it look as if I bought a pop and am bending down to get my change. Dunno if this has already been posted or whatedit: Oh...no vending machine scams..didn't read that part, guess I'll keep this up [This message has been edited by Joebob (edited 03-23-2006).] |
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handgernade14 Regular |
posted 03-27-2006 01:16
go to a near YMCA just go to the pool lockers either pick locks or do it with a shim and also check the lockess occupied lockers my friend got 60$ in one day doing this also w/ a cell phone jewlery and a shirt he liked |
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psychedelicist Regular |
posted 03-27-2006 01:44
Something my friend and I thought up a while back while we were a bit stoned. Buy a roll of those cheap ass raffle tickets, 100 tickets go for maybe $5 at most (but we still haven't managed to find somewhere that sells them). Go door to door in a city a few miles from your own, say you're from some church holding a raffle to raise funds for a mission trip. You can sell them for $2-3 a ticket, give them the address of some building to go to a week from now where the supposed raffle will be held. 100 raffle tickets at $2-3 is $200-300, and you can usually do it within an afternoon or 2. Not only do you make money, you can sit and watch 50-100 people milling around in some parking lot wondering what the hell is going on. Or, you can play it smarter and give different addresses/dates/times to everyone, because if they all meet at once they'll realize they got ripped off big time and will more than likely call the police. Or, siphon people's gas and sell it to your friends at 1/2 the price. It takes a bit longer, and you might need to buy a few more gas cans to hold all the gas (they aren't that cheap). Don't use a siphon pump, they don't work worth shit, many times they don't even reach the car's gas tank, just stick with a hose and try not to get gas in your mouth. Also, try to go for older cars, especially old beat up cars like station wagons, they're less likely to have alarms on the gas cap (regular car alarms don't often come with these, but they're fairly cheap to add onto your car, so go for the people who have shit cars). Mugging/robbery is effective if you don't mind possibly harming others. I wouldn't, but it's easier than the other methods. Sell crushed up BC powder to idiots as cocaine, they can give you a head rush, so someone who's never done coke before might just be fooled into believing that it's coke. Don't sell it to cokeheads though, unless you want your ass beat. I haven't bought coke before but I think around here it's about $100 a gram, so selling one gram of BC powder can easily get you what you need, you could probably sell it for more since these people also don't know how much coke sells for. I've been thinking the same thing recently, my chacking account has a -$150 account because some asshole drained it of the $3000 odd dollars in it. I don't have a job, and my parents don't know I had 3k in my account so I can't let them know, I'm running on empty and got no spare change so I've been racking my brain trying to think of what can be done. This is all I've come up with so far. So I might be fucked. I wouldnb't rule out vending machine scams though, sometimes they actually work. |
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Cent Regular |
posted 03-27-2006 02:03
Damn that sucks.. did you let someone else in on the account info? Or what happened? |
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psychedelicist Regular |
posted 03-27-2006 02:31
Some kind of ATM fraud, actually probably the same kind I used to pull. There's a file on it in BI. I don't know how he could have gotten my signature, account number, or some of the other stuff, but he ended up draining the account over the course of a week (spring break week, cause I left my atm card at home so it wouldn't get stolen, so I had no idea how much money was in my account). Fuckin karma chose a great time to bite me in the ass. |
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nicemarmot Regular |
posted 03-27-2006 05:37
Body parts. |
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MasterPython Regular |
posted 03-27-2006 06:16
You could whore yourself out to a fat chick for 100 dollars. |
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Supra_09 Regular |
posted 03-27-2006 06:38
Go around a rich neighborhood with a paper saying you are fundraising for a school trip you are going on to Washington DC (If you live there make it somewhere else) and have a forged signature on it like that of an adult teacher, and go to about 20 houses when the doctors, lawyers, and people are home, and in no time you'll make over $100. I've tried it and it worked... Its worth a try anyways |
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crackhead Regular |
posted 03-27-2006 18:16
Get a J-O-B! |
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Admiral Lanno Regular |
posted 03-27-2006 21:15
STFU idiot. People do it all the time, I think they call it a car run.
You run through the suburbs from one car to the next, opening car doors that
people forgot to lock, grab money from all of the change holders/glove
compartments. People leave a lot of money in their cars for toll roads and
such, if you hit my car right now, you'd get at least 3 bucks. (you'd also
get a birdshot up your ass so don't think about it)Don't bother taking cell
phones, I imagine they're a pain to sell. 60 cars an hour is quite feasible.
If you see nice looking sunglasses or a laptop or something you can take
those as well. |
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landfill Regular |
posted 03-28-2006 20:37
Anybody who watches 'Hustle' knows about this one, so it's a bit risky. |
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Havoc737903 Regular |
posted 03-28-2006 23:40
I know an easy way to make $100 in a week. It's called a job. Get one.
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Sioux-Reborn Regular |
posted 03-29-2006 11:32
Or 100 not-so-fat chicks for $1 a piece. Edit: Scratch that, 100 MEN for $1 a piece. [This message has been edited by Sioux-Reborn (edited 03-29-2006).] |
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mayor
of monkey town Regular |
posted 03-29-2006 13:39
Suck the dick. If you think your hard, then rob the guy who hires you to suck his dick. |
| Author | Topic: Impressioning |
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Immortalis Devoto Regular |
posted 03-23-2006 21:39
Ive become handy with picks and pickpocketing keys but im ready to atempt to impression keys now. The only way i know of is to Smoke a blank key with soot from a candle then insert the blank turn left then right with a pair of plyiers then cut it down to size but i wanted to know if any one else had any ideas. |
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Fate Moderator |
posted 03-24-2006 13:29
I don't get it. What's the above supposed to do? When I impressioned keys I made a two part mould out of water putty (available at a hardware store near you) doped with a little corn starch to keep the two halves from sticking together. Poked two holes in the mould while it was still wet, one to pour the metal into and one to let the air out as I did. When it dries, water putty is pretty damn heatproof. I used to use it for solid fuel rocket engine nozzles and it would hold its structure. Anyway, we had buckets of brass shavings from cutting keys, so we'd take a cast iron spoon rest (bought it from some country general store) that had a pour spout on it, melt some brass shavings in it with a MAPP torch, and pour them into the mould. The reslting key usually needed finish work to get the mould sprue off of it and smooth it down a little. We recommended that the customer bring the lock in if they could so we could test the key and do any finishing work with a needle file if we had to. Did wonders on duplicating most keys with blanks that are impossible to find, and also some security keys that had various oddities like an extra set of teeth cut into the side. |
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Optionryder420 Regular |
posted 03-24-2006 14:34
Yeah, I don't get what he's saying either... I never tried making any keys, but always thought the best way would be how you mentioned... Of course, I'd use epoxy+filler because that's just more easily available to me. |
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Fate Moderator |
posted 03-24-2006 14:46
Watch getting your mould and your material stuck together that way, though. |
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Optionryder420 Regular |
posted 03-24-2006 15:57
Pam or wax paper. I've made fin female molds out of modeling clay. |
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Immortalis Devoto Regular |
posted 03-24-2006 21:40
Look i dont know about that method of the candle, i have never tried its just something i have read about didnt sound like it would work to me any way , the mould thing is good tho ill have 2 try it. Although where am i going 2 get brass shavings from? |
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Fate Moderator |
posted 03-24-2006 21:49
Well, you don't need brass shavings per se. What you need is brass in general. You could also use zinc or anything else easily castable. Lead is a bad idea; too soft. Various coins are made of brass, and it's probably not much of a stretch to get (or filch) some brass plumbing fittings or similar for raw materials. The shavings will be easier to melt than a solid chunk of whatever, though, with the higher surface area and smaller particle size. I used brass shavings because at the hardware store we had bucketfulls of them, and regular key blanks are made of brass. I figured if we had the stuff and it was free and would work, why buck the trend? If you want to use zinc, post 1963 pennies (IIRC, I may have the date wrong) are copper clad zinc. You can melt them with an ordinary propane torch. If you want to test a penny for zinc content, just hold it on the top edge of your index finger and flick it into the air with your thumb (which is how I flip coins, I don't know about you). If it rings the penny is made of copper through and through. If it goes "tink" but doesn't ring it's zinc. |
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Immortalis Devoto Regular |
posted 03-24-2006 22:00
Okay this is probably a stupid question but where can i get ahold of a MAPP torch? |
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xap Regular |
posted 03-25-2006 09:50
What he means is, if you cover a key blank in soot (or "smoke" it black over the tip of a lighter's flame), when you rock it back and forth in the lock the pins will scratch out the soot on the blank, making it easier to see where to file down. I tried this method again not three weeks ago, and it truly doth sucketh the big rocks. Wooo...yeah. Impressioning takes a *long* time to learn, man. Even the good instructional videos out there for it leave you feeling like, "What? What the heck is he looking at on that key that he knows where to file???" The marks left by the pins are dang hard to see and interpret. Even smoking a blank is not really reliable, and it leaves a lot of dirty junk inside the lock, fouling up the pins. Picking is a lot easier to learn, takes less time to open the door, and if you can take the lock off after, you can always remove the pins, measure them and make a key later off the measurements. As for casting keys - you can get a "Clam Kit" for $55 from Lockmasters.com that does those same things, or just buy the low-melting-point alloy for $18, I think. [This message has been edited by xap (edited 03-25-2006).] |
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Fate Moderator |
posted 03-25-2006 12:39
What the devil is smoking the blank doing to do for you in the first place? Yes, it may tell you how far down the key each tooth should be, approximately. It will not tell you how tall each tooth needs to be. If you insert a blank into a properly keyed lock it will push all the pins up all the way and accomplish nothing. If you insert a blank into an improperly keyed lock, one of the pins will be too long and won't have enough play, and will hit the top of the cylinder and your blank key won't go in all the way. |
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black_light Regular |
posted 03-25-2006 17:35
i think he is talking about holding the key he wants to dupe against a blank, getting sut(sp?) from a candle all over it then when he removes the key there will be a sut outline of the teeth on the key blank which he can then cut down but youd probably fuck up and hit the sut by accident. |
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Fate Moderator |
posted 03-25-2006 19:31
Then I must have been confused by the utter non-sequitur. If you want to cut a copy of the thing, lay the keys on each other and use a quick blast of spraypaint to mask off the original key aginst the blank. What you do about the paint on the original is your problem. Can't you just take the thing to a hardware store and get a copy made if you want one so badly? |
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xap Regular |
posted 03-25-2006 22:32
Eris preserve us...*no*. Smoking a blank is not used for outlining a key. You hold a key blank over the very tip of the lighter's flame until the metal turns black. You insert the key into the lock holding it in vice grips. You turn it gently to the right as far as the locked cylinder will permit, and rock it up and down. You turn it to the left, and rock it up and down. You then carefully remove the key and look for where the pins have scratched away the black on the metal. You then file down in those spots, one cut depth at a time. You re-blacken the metal with the lighter, insert, repeat, until you find the black isn't being scratched off any more, which means you've found the right depth for that specific cut. You go until all the cuts are no longer having the black removed, and the lock should theoretically open to that key. There's another system involving a UV marker and UV light that does the same thing, but generally for night work. In any case, even smoking a blank is still really difficult to master,
because it's hard to interpret the scratches when you don't have much
experience. Impressioning Kwikset locks is terrible, because Kwiksets have
such sloppy tolerances. It's much easier on things like Master padlocks
(with keys, not combos obviously) or cheap wafer locks, like the kind you'd
find on desks or toilet paper holders.
If you really want to learn this, I'd hit up Ebay. Go to Business/Industrial, Safety & Security, Locks and Locksmith Gear, and look at the locks for sale. Pick up some cheap wafer locks and blanks to match, and a set of needle files, and a small pair of vice grips (locking pliers, for the newbie). Without smoking the blank, I seriously doubt you'll be able to read the shiny spots and scratches on an unsmoked key blank to begin with, not your fault, it's just really tricky to learn without a pro right there to guide you over and over. Practice all you like in the comfort of your own home. Anybody thinking of learning this for B&E...really, don't bother. You can't do this fast enough on the usual time deadlines involved in burglary. If you can get the lock off the door in the first place to take home and try to impression a key, you can make a key based off the pins and won't need to impression anyways. Better to stick to picking, or stealing and copying the actual key. |
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Immortalis Devoto Regular |
posted 03-26-2006 01:50
Look forget i ever fucking mentioned the damn smoking idea.I dont care about it only new ideas. |
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Fate Moderator |
posted 03-26-2006 02:04
Okay, maybe I'm conused here. But every lock I've ever taken apart has had top springs that extend the pins basically to the midpoint of the cylinder and keep tension on them against the key the entire time no matter what as long as the key is still in there, if the teeth are the right depth or not. The tension changes, obviously, but the pins do not end when the teeth of the key are in the correct position. That happens at the shear line, with tension still on the pins and the key. So unless I'm totally missing something with your description of the process, would not the soot be scratched off the key by the pins each and every time you insert the key into the lock? The only way you'd lose tension on the pins to prevent scratching on any of them is if you got them all correct and lined up the shear, at which point the lock would be open and the point would be moot anyway. |
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xap Regular |
posted 03-26-2006 05:26
*blinks a few times* You know, that's like that old "does the center of a record move faster than the outer edge" problem. I never really thought about it before, but the way you describe it impressioning does seem impossible, even though I've watched other people do it many times, and just barely managed it myself a few. Huh. *stares at nothing for a while, thinking* That's really weird. But yeah, truly, it does work, for reasons I now realize I don't understand. Maybe it's something to do with the twisting of the cylinder...maybe when you twist it, the pins that are properly at the shear line no longer feel as much pressure from the top pins and springs, and just more sort of rest on the blank instead of pressing into it (like a less exaggerated version of the way mushroom pins tilt if you try to pick normally). And yeah, when you finish (or get really close to) the last cut, the lock will start to grudgingly turn each time you twist the pliers. You then polish it up, finalize the cuts until it turns smoothly, maybe use depth key sets as a guide to make it more accurate if you like. Immortalis Devoto: Ooh, tetchy. |
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xap Regular |
posted 03-26-2006 14:51
Ah, here we go. This online manual pretty much says the same thing: When the pins are turned, they bind and leave marks. But when the pins reach the shear line, they no longer bind and stop marking. I guess it's just one-a them-there science things. |
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Tokolosh Moderator |
posted 03-26-2006 14:57
http://freewebhosting.hostdepartment.com/s/scuzzyelo/keys.html |
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Fate Moderator |
posted 03-26-2006 15:20
When you did it, would you describe perhaps that the pins in the correct positions made different marks? It could be that the pins that have met the shear line are giving a little more play than the others. I'm intruged at this proposition and I have a KW1 cylinder on the door of my apartment as well as a few blanks. I'm tempted to try, but I wonder what perhaps the staff might think. I also have the advantage of having a working key to compare to. This sort of thing tickles my fancy and I'd like to bunk or debunk it as scientifically as possible... |
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xap Regular |
posted 03-26-2006 16:29
Heh...there's no debunking to be done, thou doubtful dilettante. Impressioning works, as I have witnessed with mine own eyes on many occasions, and performed with these own two mitts. I recently purchased a video by Steve Young on the subject, which while being technically instructive, was made in the 80's, and thus Young's horrible hairstyle was quite distractive. The one defining characteristic of masters teaching amateurs how to impression is the common cry of, "Where the hell are these shiny scratches you're talking about?" It's almost impossible to see at first, and there's no way to communicate it by text. I've never noticed the pins making *different* scratches per se, when at the shear line, just an absence of scratch entirely. Oogh. Kwikset. Good luck with that, Sonny Jim. Seriously, Kwikset sucks for impressioning. Better to try it with a Master padlock first. |
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Immortalis Devoto Regular |
posted 03-27-2006 00:14
Its like talking to a brick wall. |
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xap Regular |
posted 03-27-2006 00:48
ID: Sorry if you're offended by our prattle, but we're really trying to work out impressioning here. You'd be so lucky to get half this good amount of info on a teenager-populated web forum. You said you wanted "new ideas", but I doubt very much you know what those ideas are, and haven't even defined what sort of info beyond impressioning it is you're looking for. Forgive us for hijacking your thread, but unless you've actually got a notion of some other skill you're interested in, I'm sure most of the young folks around here would love to learn more about doing impressioning right. |
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Immortalis Devoto Regular |
posted 03-27-2006 17:56
No im not offened just feel a little left out. What im seeking to obtain is the ultimate weapon. Knowledge, skill, tequniue. The ability to bybass any security system. Imagine a locked door and the only and i mean only way to open it is with a key but u cant steal the key or the lock itself. How can i make one with these restrictions. People feel save, secure, and sleep well at night because of locks and security alarms. I want an entire arsenal of skills to choose from to bybass any security measure i should ever come across. The ability to remove the feeling of security through the most terrifying way possible is almost a lifes passion and pursiut for me. To look upon the act of killing with total indiffrence is to reach a point at which there are no more barriers left to cross. No more mental barriers left anyway. Both physically and mentally i wish to become the best at stealth that i possible can. I want to hack any security alarms, key pads , scanners, i want to pick any locks, and infiltrate any area. This is my goal as crazy as it may sound. Its an ego thing. -Every breath leads me one less to my last |
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xap Regular |
posted 03-28-2006 10:38
Wow and holy carp, son. It's like you just kind of transcribed my life's
mission from ten years ago.
(Er...spelling, though. "Technique". Heh.) Believe me, I know *exactly* what you mean, because I was sitting in your shoes a decade ago, and made the long, slow crawl of self-education. I may not be able to turn you into the God of Bypass, but I can definitely educate you, and your speech hath mightily impressed me. Drop me a line at xap23@hotmail.com, and let's talk privately. |
| Author | Topic: easy free products |
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justaskmeok Regular |
posted 04-01-2006 04:10
well, this is not original, but very easy. i had a kodak digi cam that had a fucked up rotor. i wrote kodak, and they sent me a kodak easy share dx7630 cam. anyways after that, i wrote mountain dew, marlboro, mcdonalds, subway, marshall fields. almost everywhere, and they always send me free shit, and i do it all be email. this is under how not to get scammed or whatever, but it really works, im proof, and my next compliaint ill post the response. i also got free cub tickets last year saying an usher spilled beer on me. man theres so many companies who want us happy its sick. im from the 60610 and we dont play. i love everyone on this board especially the ones that dont like me. anyway who else does this shit? |
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HARDMAN Regular |
posted 04-01-2006 15:07
This is a good way to rip off major corporations. They're more concerned with protecting their reputation than saving a few bucks on some crap they send you. |
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bluefox Regular |
posted 04-01-2006 15:50
Post a sample letter you have sucessfully passed off as a valid complaint to these companies. Im curious as to what you wrote. Do you have any tips for complaint letters? ...I mean, to get a FREE digicam just because yours mildly fucked up (the rotor or whatever) is awesome. What proof did you send them that you had legitly paid for it? What buzz words/phrases do you have to say to make them want to send you stuff? |
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dDIzzIEe Regular |
posted 04-01-2006 16:37
A few tips...Complaint Letter Scam
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bluefox Regular |
posted 04-01-2006 16:50
I seem to recall some tips for product complaint letters in your Bad Ideas FAQ Dizzle, but those were for free cigarettes or something. This guy (allegedly) got a free digicam, which is on a whole different level, so im wondering if there are any special tips needed to sucessfully scam something like that. |
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AdamF Regular |
posted 04-01-2006 17:35
I got a free elliptical machine back in January. |
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Sonofjango615 Regular |
posted 04-01-2006 19:38
Is there any database tehy can keep, or should we wait a few weeks if we want more free stuff from the same company? or do they just not keep track? anyone know? |
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Rxq Regular |
posted 04-01-2006 21:27
POsta sample letter? What is the e-mail adresses? |
| Author | Topic: scam ideas |
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Pink Regular |
posted 04-02-2006 19:51
any one got a good scam idea just want to see what u ppl think |
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mikemayberry Regular |
posted 04-03-2006 00:27
reader's digest has a few: Child Identity Theft Waldron's identity had been stolen by his estranged father, who left when Randy was a toddler. From 1982 to 1999, Randy Waldron, Sr., used his son's Social Security number to obtain credit from various merchants and lenders, then racked up tens of thousands of dollars in debts. He declared bankruptcy in his son's name, which resulted in default judgments against the younger Waldron. It has taken Randy Jr., now a 24-year-old flight attendant, years to untangle the mess. Waldron isn't alone. Identity theft is this country's fastest-growing crime -- and, increasingly, ID thieves are targeting children. Their clean credit and absence of criminal histories make them ideal victims. Linda Foley, co-executive director of the Identity Theft Resource Center in San Diego, estimates that at least 400,000 children had their identities stolen in 2005, more than double the number in 2003. Waldron's case is typical: The resource center estimates that two-thirds of child ID thefts are perpetrated by family members. Some crooks use children's names and Social Security numbers to ring up massive debts; others use children's identities in place of their own when caught committing other crimes; still others sell identification information on the black market to illegal immigrants, fellow criminals or even terrorists. The ordeal inflicts enormous financial and emotional trauma on its victims, in part because the identity abuse often goes undetected for years. Dealing with child identity theft after it happens is extremely difficult. Laws in many states are insufficient to handle the crime's complexity, and financial institutions are often less than helpful. Randy Waldron, Jr., has worked tirelessly for eight years to straighten out his credit record, and he continues to deal with the fallout. "It's been a very long and arduous battle," he says. "Recovering my identity was really the absolute hardest part. I think a lot of victims assume the problem will go away." Keep your children's Social Security and other identification information in a locked file drawer, never in your wallet. If there's evidence that your kids might be the victims of identity theft, order credit reports on them from the three nationwide credit bureaus: Equifax, Experian and Trans-Union. The credit search should come up empty. If it doesn't, contact local law enforcement immediately, and visit the Identity Theft Resource Center's website at idtheftcenter.org. Look Out for These Cons The latest incarnation of this time-tested fraud begins when the crook gets your e-mail address and other personal information from a résumé you've posted online. He sends you a note in which he claims to represent a money-transfer company looking to hire you to test its money-wiring services. His firm will send you a check, he says, which you are to deposit in your bank account before wiring the money back -- keeping a "commission" of 5 to 20 percent for yourself. "The company's check is counterfeit, of course," explains Susan Grant, director of the National Fraud Information Center. "And you're stuck owing your bank all the money you've wired." Grant advises job hunters to be wary of any too-good-to-be-true employment offers, especially one that involves wiring money. Fake Jury Duty Con Flustered, you protest that you weren't notified -- this must be a mistake! Not to worry, says the helpful caller; I'll just need your Social Security number and date of birth to check our records. You provide that information -- and the scammer has what he needs to steal your identity. Real courts usually correspond by mail, not the telephone. And they don't need your Social Security number -- just your name and address should suffice. Medicare Fraud No legitimate Medicare prescription drug plan will send salespeople to your door uninvited. Likewise, participating insurers are prohibited from asking for personal information as part of their marketing. Insurers may ask for your Social Security number when you're actually enrolling in their plan -- but they'll only need credit card or bank account numbers if you're signing up for automatic payments. Protect Your Personal Information In one common pretexting scheme, the caller claims to be conducting a survey on behalf of your bank or another financial institution, and asks questions designed to ferret out your account number, date of birth, Social Security number and so on. Once the con artist has that data, he can call your bank and pretend to be you -- then bleed you dry. Never give out your personal information to an unsolicited caller. "IRS" Phishing Scam Those e-mails are annoying, but a new twist on the scam is downright scary: The messages appear to come from the IRS, and claim that you either are due a refund or have tax problems. You're asked to click on a link to a website where you can clear up the matter -- and that's when the scam really kicks into gear. The link sends you to a page that appears to be on the IRS site (the URL even includes "www.irs.gov"), but in reality it is a fake site designed to collect your private financial information. An e-mail that claims to be from the IRS probably isn't. "The IRS doesn't send unsolicited e-mail," says IRS spokesperson Michelle Lamishaw, who points out that the agency has no reason to ask for financial access information such as PINs, account passwords and credit card numbers. Never follow a hyperlink in an unsolicited e-mail, no matter who it's from. Type in the URL yourself. If you think you may be due a tax refund, you can check by calling 800-829-1040 or by logging directly onto the IRS website at www.irs.gov and clicking on "Where's My Refund?" Pharming You can stymie pharmers by installing and maintaining computer security systems, including software such as Norton AntiVirus or McAfee VirusScan -- which feature anti-virus and anti-spyware protections -- and firewalls such as ZoneAlarm or Norton Personal Firewall. That's easy to do. Simply buy and install the software and sign up for automatic updates. Don't Be Deceived by Technology The Federal Trade Commission recently brought charges against a Costa Rica-based outfit that allegedly sold bogus franchises in a coffee display-rack business for investments ranging from $18,000 to $85,000. "The company used VoIP technology to appear as if it were operating from New Mexico, when it actually had no U.S. operations," says FTC spokesperson Jacqueline Dizdul. Warns Lydia Parnes, director of the FTC Bureau of Consumer Protection, "The days are gone when consumers could rely on a phone number to know where someone is located." High-Tech ATM Snooping One emerging scam capitalizes on the miracle of wireless digital cameras. The California Bankers Association reported in 2005 that criminals have taken to affixing wireless cameras to the front of ATMs, often cleverly disguised as part of the machine's card-scanning equipment. The camera then transmits a recording of the transaction -- including the card number and PIN -- to a device held by the scammer, who's waiting nearby. A clever criminal can use that information in all sorts of ways, like stealing from your account and appropriating your identity. Be suspicious of any devices attached to the front of an ATM or keypads missing their Braille markings, and report any unusual-seeming electronics to the bank and police. Scholarship and Government Grant Flimflams In the fall of 2005, Scott Holmblad of Cottage Grove, Minnesota, received a telephone call from a firm that claimed to specialize in obtaining government grants. The voice on the phone said the U.S. government had hired the company to locate the 29-year-old business manager and inform him that he had won a $5,000 grant. All Holmblad had to do, said the caller, was agree to have a $275 processing fee withdrawn directly from his bank account. The caller offered to post-date the withdrawal for seven days, ostensibly to allow time for the paperwork to clear. Holmblad sniffed out the scam, but played along -- and when the firm attempted to withdraw the money just three days later, it found that he had closed his account. "I had a little fun at their expense," Holmblad explains. Government grant agencies and scholarship-awarding organizations
typically won't initiate correspondence with you or require an up-front fee.
Be wary of any offer that demands an immediate response or uses a P.O. box
for a return address. |
| Author | Topic: Where to find copper? |
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Darkfire Regular |
posted 04-03-2006 14:07
A few friends and I broke into a junk yard, took some metal and sold it to another, anout a year ago. I think we got some shitty metal, though, because we basically filled my trunk but got $40. I hear about copper all the time. I have kept my eyes open for it wherever I go and I haven't seen any. I admit that I haven't gone out specifically to look for it, but I really don't know where to start. Can someone help me out with a few tips as to where I can find it? |
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Fate Moderator |
posted 04-03-2006 16:14
Copper is used widely in: - Pipes Note that brass also turns green when it corrodes (due to its copper content) but it too fetches a respectable price when sold. |
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Darkfire Regular |
posted 04-03-2006 16:23
Say I go to a construction site. Any wire or pipes around that area could be traded in? |
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LawnChairSkank Regular |
posted 04-03-2006 23:15
Air conditioner condensers have a shitload of copper in them. My dad's an HVAC guy and everytime he replaces on he takes it in ands gets like 25$ a peice. Go to a local HVAC place and they should have a ton of them in there dumpster. |
| Author | Topic: gotta free carton of smokes |
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justaskmeok Regular |
posted 04-08-2006 06:16
swim bitched at marlboro sayin i lol <____ bought a carton of reds, and i opened it and they were menthol. they asked for proof of purchase, i said i through it away. to make this shorter, there sending me an age verification to sendback to them, then a coupon for 1 free carton.....off to bigger things now. |
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lordsjohnson Regular |
posted 04-08-2006 06:18
Goody for you. You're amazing. |
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DonMuttoni Regular |
posted 04-08-2006 06:18
I think even this thread would be pointless without pics..... but I love
Marlboro too |
| Author | Topic: RECEIPT SCAM? |
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blah45 Regular |
posted 04-08-2006 16:04
i was reading on this forum bad ideas |
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Fate Moderator |
posted 04-08-2006 16:06
Possibly. The key lies in the fact that most Wal Marts have to entrances, and the returns desk is more to one side or the other, in that little nook sort of thing set into the front wall. It would be quite possible to nab merchandise from other parts of the store and bring it to the counter without anyone paying any attention to you. |
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Millixion Regular |
posted 04-08-2006 17:35
Any wal-mart I've ever been to has had it's return department right next to the front door. I think it would be pretty suspicious if you walked past that, grabbed an item, and then returned to that location. Maybe if you spent enough time in the store it would be ok, but if I was
working there, I would raise a red flag to anyone coming from the store with
an item. Maybe I've just been hanging around here too long
Another thing to consider: If it's an electronic item, it needs to have it's electronic tag removed before returning, as I'm sure they'd check for that on any suspicious return. |
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Just
Insane Regular |
posted 04-08-2006 18:37
Its really easy to do this with clothes. |
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Your
Papi Regular |
posted 04-08-2006 18:42
Could work. If they really look over the receipt, they might realize it though. |
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Vilkacis Regular |
posted 04-08-2006 19:47
^I don't get this. How could the reciept show info that would give it away? Simplest with untagged items, and probably bringing in the bag from their store you brought it from would make it seem more legit. |
| Author | Topic: Simple Con Trick |
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Lucky7 Regular |
posted 04-08-2006 09:14
This isn't my idea, but I'll pass it on for those of you who like to win a few £s or $s out of your mates. 1. Put £10, £20, £50 (or whatever currency/amount you want) on the
table.(I'll use the example of £50) You make a profit of £5 or whatever they bid over. Fun to do on mates. |
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blinky101 Regular |
posted 04-08-2006 09:35
I sell tea to kids in baggies. They think its weed. I sometimes stick
around to see them pretend to be high. lol Its all in good fun.
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Lucky7 Regular |
posted 04-08-2006 09:39
hehe how cruel :P |
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blinky101 Regular |
posted 04-08-2006 09:43
Well your talking about young people who dont know much about the
diffrent currencies? Just trade them 1000 yen for 20 pounds. They'll think
they're rich.
[This message has been edited by blinky101 (edited 04-08-2006).] |
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Lucky7 Regular |
posted 04-08-2006 09:50
No, this trick is about confusing people about auctions where the thing you are bidding for is money itself. Currency stays the say all the way through. If you put in £s they put in £s if you use $s they use $s. You make money whatever you use :P |
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Der
Commissar Regular |
posted 04-08-2006 11:19
sounds like a nice scam, but i'd only do it on mates, It's not worth having your face fucked up with a broken bottle when you're on the train by some poof because you ripped him of $5 at the pub last saturday |
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Lucky7 Regular |
posted 04-08-2006 11:59
I agree, it's a very 'Haha I got you this time... see you tomorrow' kind of prank... |
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m_hindler Regular |
posted 04-09-2006 01:03
lol yea i can see the auction working but then ure friend looks down and goes wtf? now i only have 45 pound--give me back my god damn money! |
| Author | Topic: donation jar scam |
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bluefox Regular |
posted 04-07-2006 19:33
While im sure its been done before, I was walking out of a mom n' pop resteraunt a few days ago and realized a great and easy potential scam. Just get alot of old jars, tape a label to them that has the name of a random charity and the words 'donation jar' on them. Then walk into random locations, like resteraunts and gas stations (preferably near rich neighborhoods), and ask the owner if you can set up a donation jar for your charity near their cash register. I figure 10 or so jars littered around local businesses would pull in some nice gas money and a maybe little extra every week or two. Risk seems to be VERY VERY low for this scam, which is always a plus. Honestly, there are only a few minor problems I can find with this idea. Someone who REALLY works for the charity I name might walk into the store, notice the donation jar, and possibly do some calling and find out it is a scam. But even IF that happens, the worst that would happen is the store nixing the jar (I think?). So yeah, does anyone have any input to help flesh this scam out? Are there any gaping holes in the plan im overlooking? Thanks. |
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blah45 Regular |
posted 04-07-2006 21:09
your cruel |
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bluefox Regular |
posted 04-07-2006 21:11
Im cruel? This is like the most mellow scheme compared to others on this board. Go bug them since you dont seem to have any constructive input for this. |
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pyroanarchist Regular |
posted 04-07-2006 21:11
If you give 10% to charity, its legal. |
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Pink Regular |
posted 04-08-2006 01:28
You would be better off I you went to a random neibourhod and went door to money. I think of a creative cause I will garentee it better than what you have planned |
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Pink Regular |
posted 04-08-2006 01:29
*IF YOU* |
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Fate Moderator |
posted 04-08-2006 02:14
There's an edit button, you know. You ought to use it. This won't work at most chain stores, but privately owned local businesses may go for it. Another more believeable scam would be to make the donation jars for new high school band uniforms or something universally lame that some random kid might actually be trying to get local businesses to keep on their counters. |
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viz7bl Regular |
posted 04-08-2006 02:58
It is legal if you donate a % to charity, but not if you use a charity's name that is not affiliated with you. I did this scam in blacksburg, made a little over $1,000 from the days of Nov 25th to Dec 26th. It was "Help bring christmas to the needy." with a sheet that explained the charity. Basically I lied and said that all donations go into providing a christmas dinner for needy families. The dinner was located at the mormon church. What I did was illegal because I didn't donate any of it to charity. |
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len Regular |
posted 04-08-2006 12:07
heres another idea... run up to the counter of a shop and steal a donation jar! takes way less time and thought. |
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Fate Moderator |
posted 04-08-2006 12:41
Wouldn't you know it, that's prosecutable. There were two guys in my area last year who got busted for that. They were hitting various convenience stores around the area not to hold up the joint but to steal the donation jars on the counters. On the fourth store they hit word had already gotten around and store employees clotheslined one of them and held him for the cops. He ratted out the second, and they both were convicted. |
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Millixion Regular |
posted 04-08-2006 17:41
Honestly, who's going to run a record on who donated how much money from a jar in a mom and pop store to which charity? This is a pretty good idea if you play it right. You definitly only want to hit mom and pop stores, and you definitly want to have a sheet of paper explaining the charity, along with pictures of needy children and whatever. Too bad lent's almost over, that's a good season to do it. I do pose the question just out of curiosity; is it in fact legal if you donate as little as 10% to the charity you listed on the container? |
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Canis_Major Regular |
posted 04-08-2006 17:54
if yuo make up charities... then noone from that charity will be able to recognise it. |
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godzillaroar2000 Regular |
posted 04-08-2006 17:54
I think! Wow, I (hypotheticly of course) always thought of doing this but it sounds so easy now...I think I'm going to do it (hypotheticly)! |
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S510 Regular |
posted 04-08-2006 18:04
Good Idea,
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faithbanks Regular |
posted 04-09-2006 03:11
Golly, I sure did miss a lot during my TOTSE hiatus. SWIM will be trying this scam.
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cac0 Regular |
posted 04-09-2006 03:47
Make shure you dress nice when you come and pick up the jars. |
| Author | Topic: u want money huh? free? easy scam? come in |
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justaskmeok Regular |
posted 03-30-2006 06:35
well i dontlike pedofiles. so what i do and have been doing for the last 3 years is scamming them. its vryeasy and ive made about 40 grand in cash and merchandise. here it goes. ok pick out a name. i use the name steph. anyway go into chatrooms, and say 12 f pics, or whatever. alot of people will im u. tell them you live with just your mom, and shes not home alot, and also shes abusive and a drunk. tell the man u want to leave and move out, or your mom is kicking you out. get a po box. you dont really need an id for one. tell the pervert you need money to leave, they will send cash. also ive had them send digi cams for pictures, gift cards, and especially money. i got my first guy for 1000 dollars cash. this was like 3 years ago, and his dumbass is still waiting for me prolly. i guess this is a sick way to make money but i look at it like fuck them. u also have to usually talk perverted, and obviously act like a lil boy or girl. never say your younger then 12. if they want a pic, just go to photobucket.com and send them a pic of someone. i used to use facepic.com anyway im sharing this with everyone cause i guess its my contribution to this site. remember go in chatrooms. be prepared. if they ever wanna talk on the phone tell them your mom moniotors your calls. im not looking for anyone to compliment me on this, i just want to show you all the perfect scam. if anyone has any questions just post. go for it u lil jerks, it works. me |
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justaskmeok Regular |
posted 03-30-2006 06:51
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ |
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nooner Regular |
posted 03-30-2006 07:53
Pretty sleazy, but I do not doubt it works. I'm surprised mroe don't have an issue with PO boxes though. |
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Risk Regular |
posted 03-30-2006 08:51
Sixteen would be a better age, as there are more girls at sixteen who seriously think they're smart and want to be indipendant. This is why adults who want to get into these types of relationships will be more trustworthy to actually give money to you. PO box is also a bad idea. Why would a twelve year old girl have a PO box? Get it sent to an abandoned place or a house across the street. And of couse, spell like every other teen out there (the thread starter is pretty good at it). This could work. It's luck more than anything. Where'd you get the idea? |
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Nik Regular |
posted 03-30-2006 10:21
http://tinyurl.com/me3sh |
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Fat
Penis Regular |
posted 03-30-2006 15:17
thanks bro. stay white brother. |
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jonogt Regular |
posted 03-30-2006 15:42
good idea, but ya i don't beleive 40k either, and find a different place than the PO box |
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scorpio2121 Regular |
posted 03-30-2006 15:59
I smell bullshit 40k my ass |
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marusushi Regular |
posted 03-30-2006 17:11
Perhaps this could be a solution for getting rid of pedophilia? Besides, I think it's perfectly okay to scam sickos. |
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Fat
Penis Regular |
posted 03-30-2006 17:15
dude, i just did totse username check. you have been asking for underage girl pix for awhile. think before you post. wierdo. |
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Fate Moderator |
posted 03-30-2006 17:30
Despite your tenuous grasp of the English language and your claims of profit that are no doubt greatly exaggerated, you actually have a halfway decent idea. Beware those FBI agents who you always hear about on the news arresting people because they have nothing better to do than pretend to be 13 year old girls and/or pedophiles and run around arresting people. I wonder if any of those guys have ever managed to pull a sting operation against themselves? Interesting line of thought. |
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spazz Regular |
posted 03-30-2006 18:35
Well now i am runin over to yahoo to try this out. |
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reject Regular |
posted 03-30-2006 18:45
I'm thinking of doing this, but im too lazy to go and set up a PO box. Could I just get the guy to send money to my house, and if he comes round just deal with it and deny all knowledge (whilst keeping a baseball bat handy, just in case), but then could he get the police on me for deception or some shit? I don't know, sounds like a very good idea though. |
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Nik Regular |
posted 03-30-2006 19:21
I don't think so, he's giving you the money to help out and not paying
for something, isn't he? And even if he were paying for something it'd be
the sexual favours of a minor.
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m3altoon623 Regular |
posted 03-30-2006 20:58
hmmm......I saw something very similar to this on law and order about a month ago. You could also black-mail them if you wanted to go all-out. threaten to expose them unless the give you x amount of dollars. that idea cam from a book called The Brethren by John Grisham. |
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Aft3r
ImaGe Regular |
posted 03-30-2006 21:32
It's pretty original for this site as opposed to some of the other stuff here. We need more social engineering scams that the people can't report you on. The report would be fishy if some 40 year old man submitted a report about someone claiming to be 12 took their money they gave for them to possibly bribe them into being kidnapped/worse. |
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jonogt Regular |
posted 03-30-2006 21:41
i think i'm going to try it, and tell my friend that if he should start having packages postmarked to "ashley" (or some other big-blue-eyed looking-for-love 15 yr old type name) show up at his door, that theyre for me lol |
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justaskmeok Regular |
posted 03-30-2006 21:46
well i found the idea just thinkin about how to make easy money, i also say my neighbor is an older guy and i drink with him, thats whose po box it is. also 40 k is easy that was doing it part time like 4 hourts a night and checking my email often. |
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justaskmeok Regular |
posted 03-30-2006 21:51
also like i said have some patience if your thinking about doing this
hypothetically, of course. and i think if you got caught doing this, the
pedophile will get into troule not u. the pigs or fedipigs would laugh that
shit out of court, especially if your underage ripping off a 50 yo child
raper. |
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Cannabisman Regular |
posted 03-30-2006 23:42
This sounds like a very good idea, I mean he can't do shit about it or I could just say he was trying to pay a minor for sex. Man, awesome, I'm gonna need to get a PO box soon. |
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jonogt Regular |
posted 03-31-2006 01:27
wats the pt of the PO box thing?? i would say do a 15 year old girl... isn't 16 the legal adult age for a female? if so that might cause problems i dunno.. but ya i'm just gona use my friends address. he orders all kinds of stuff and his parents never question it. if someone did show up there and try to make some deception claim bullshit, he'd knife em (given it wasnt the police) |
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angryanalrobot Regular |
posted 03-31-2006 03:24
SWIM is definately trying this. (seriousally it's not me..) |
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Risk Regular |
posted 03-31-2006 04:58
No... I'm pretty sure it's eighteen for either sex. The point would be so he couldn't track you. And JAMOK, why would they give you gift cards and laptops? That makes no
sense. |
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jonogt Regular |
posted 03-31-2006 05:12
ya i guess no tracking ability would be good, but i think it'd cut down on how much stuff you could get cause it'd look fishy. |
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Elephantitis Man Regular |
posted 03-31-2006 05:19
Hmmm...I'd do it if there was a reliable way to get the shit to my house.
Frankly, I'm not too eager to hand out my real address to a sicko who I've
scammed out of a few hundred bucks. |
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nooner Regular |
posted 03-31-2006 05:40
Learn the routes and times of the mailman. Have the stuff shipped to random houses around town, OR houses of people you don't like. Go around after the mailman and pick out any stuff from the mail that's yours. Some advice on this, however: Don't pick an abandoned house. Mailmen DO notice if frequent packages start showing up at a house where no one is reported to live, in fact, some may forward the mail to the previous occupant's address. |
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Fayt Regular |
posted 03-31-2006 06:47
Actually this can and would easily. I've seen a website where this girl will post ANY seductive picture on there... if you ask right. No nudity, just underwear shots. Well, guys will send her money, underwear to wear, etc. No body has ever seen her face either... it's all body shots. Seriously, her whole ward drobe was bought by random guys online. Some people will pay anything for their kicks. |
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justaskmeok Regular |
posted 03-31-2006 06:48
anyway im going to sound like a fag, but the only reason im giving this idea out isnt cause im retiring doing it. its cause all u fuckers like me appreciate this kind of shit, and you all are cool in your own ways. if u have a direct question for me, just post to my sn. theres ins and outs. u can use a close buddy, DONT GET THAT shit sent to your house. please i thought about that, then i figured these fucks could hurt my mom foreal. well i guess thats it im just waiting for questions CAUSE I KNOW one of you is going to be determined about this and BANK of these fucks. yes im the real green lantern, the evil genious. peace |
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Jacobjac Regular |
posted 03-31-2006 11:43
Sounds easier than it is. It's a nice idea but it certainly isn't easy.. You have to talk your way in to it for hours.. You can't exactly ask for money straight away.. Then you may find out that theyre (most of the time) not interested in giving money. And if they say they are interested.. Chances are, they're lying. They'll get some picks.. jack off.. And finish their business. Bye, you're blocked. What this topic doesn't cover is the ones that want naked pics and webcams and so forth. They don't feel a usual pic is good enough. In closing.. You'll be very lucky to pull off getting money, by simply giving the guy a picture of you and telling him your story. |
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WhyteWydow Regular |
posted 03-31-2006 11:55
That's a great idea dude. If they don't require too much ID for the PO box, I will try that. |
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justaskmeok Regular |
posted 03-31-2006 20:05
your def right, thats why i said u need patience. it took me 1 month on
my 1st pervert, and i got a g out of him. |
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ManInBlack Regular |
posted 03-31-2006 22:14
I can't believe that no one has picked up on the fact that this is not a new idea. In fact, as the original poster described it, the scheme is almost exactly the one that is pulled in a John Grisham novel. Since I read it in high school, I can't remember the name exactly, but it is based on a true story and it is the one with the 3 judges in federal prison who pretend to be young boys and advertise for "penpals" in gay publications. They may have even used anonymous PO Boxes. I have no doubts as to the success of the idea, but c'mon, give credit where credit's due. |
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Your
Papi Regular |
posted 04-01-2006 00:30
Nice this is a wicked plan man. SWIM want to try it but he don't have
resources to a P.O box. If you are intersted in working together
[This message has been edited by Your Papi (edited 04-01-2006).] |
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gunjah Regular |
posted 04-01-2006 02:34
i got this guy really going (hes a weirdo) but how should i get on the sybject of him sending money? He said he spent nearly 1k on thongs for his last 14 yo g/f (what a freak) lol |
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HARDMAN Regular |
posted 04-01-2006 02:35
I have to admit, this is actually a pretty clever and safe way to make money. More importantly it is, in my opinion, socially righteous. Fuck over some pedophiles for their money… and I seriously doubt they will contact the police. But technically I don’t think there’s anything against the law about sending some money and shit to some kid, so still be careful about them contacting the cops anyway. If you want extra security I suggest you do all your operations at a public computer such as at a coffee shop or a school computer(make sure it’s one that you don’t need a personal username to log onto though). This may be a little paranoid, but also try to never develop a routine for when you do your operations, and keep on the lookout for police surveillance teams. But really you don’t have to worry about this so much as long as you make sure the pervert actually *solicits you for sex while thinking you are underage.* Right there you have proof of that guy's crimes on your harddrive. Yes, it will probably take patience and time to actually get some money, but your skill level at it will improve over time. I mean, it’s better than actually getting a fuckin job. And as an earlier poster said, there is always the option of blackmail. Just tell that motherfucker you tracked his IP address or tell him you will show the police your computer records. Then bam! just take that motherfucker's money and pocket that shit. [This message has been edited by HARDMAN (edited 04-01-2006).] |
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RP_NS Regular |
posted 04-01-2006 02:46
haha |
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HARDMAN Regular |
posted 04-01-2006 02:46
Try asking him for small things first and then work your way up. Or if you want to get real psychological you can do the opposite and ask him for something really big first, and when he doesn't give it to you, start acting really upset over it and ask for something smaller. He will be more likely to give you something smaller if you ask for something big first. |
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gunjah Regular |
posted 04-01-2006 03:09
id bet i could get this guy to send me something, but i need a PO box, how hard are they to get and ho wmuch do they cost? do u think i coul djust go to one of those package places that will accept your packages for you? Or would it be too suspicious to have him send it to my name? |
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blink Regular |
posted 04-01-2006 03:36
A Post Office box near me is $37 for six months. It is located in a mall, so the P.O. Box is never written in the address. For example, it would be like 1023 Crossgate Center. I could even buy the PO Box, then file a change of address form and have the mail sent to a different address. For First Class Mail, it can be forwarded for a year. This will virtually eliminate any chance encounters with the sicko. |
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KrylonSpy Regular |
posted 04-01-2006 03:44
Just adding some of my thoughts. |
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justaskmeok Regular |
posted 04-01-2006 03:59
youroutyour godamn mind man. i mae this up. jealous fuck. i try to contribute, and i get bullshit. |
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justaskmeok Regular |
posted 04-01-2006 04:00
congrats i told u. |
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justaskmeok Regular |
posted 04-01-2006 04:03
i know all or most of you are paranoid. im not. if anyone has a personal question and wants to ask me just email me. if your a cop good, im just making one pedo poorer. sorry totse, and bored im posting so much, its just my original idea, and dude up there talking about john grisham, and saying i didnt come up with this gets on my nerves. well its all good. lets make some money. |
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Your
Papi Regular |
posted 04-01-2006 04:04
Thats a pretty good price for 6 months from what I know. contact me. |
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ManInBlack Regular |
posted 04-01-2006 04:13
http:/ /www.amazo n.com/gp/p roduct/055 3502417/10 2-4073260- 2708154?v= glance&n=283155 The Brethren By John Grisham Suck my dick you ignorant fuck. P.S.: Not only are you not original in any way, you also spell and use grammar like a 4th grader with Down syndrome. [This message has been edited by ManInBlack (edited 04-01-2006).] |
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mayor
of monkey town Regular |
posted 04-01-2006 05:35
Yeah i might try it, its not something you can do on an idle whim though. |
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HTA_37 Regular |
posted 04-01-2006 07:02
Jeezus, I've been at it for 3 hours, and all I got were a bunch of perverted guys wanting naked pix! I even hinted that I need money and crap... jeezus, these people are dumb!!! I think this would work, but it's not right now... |
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mikemayberry Regular |
posted 04-01-2006 09:54
it seems like it could be a good blackmailing system instead of what you all are discussing. i also thought of the brethren when you mentioned it because of the position you are putting the mark in. but to the original poster's credit, it is a different take on the idea. why do you all feel so great about stealing from perverts? they probably worked for the money too. stop trying to justify your theft and just embrace your willingness to betray another human being. |
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ewahwoowah Regular |
posted 04-01-2006 10:57
wat the hell is a po box? |
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scorpio2121 Regular |
posted 04-01-2006 11:04
Its a box you can have mail sent to instead of your home address, you may have one if you dont want people finding out your home address, just go to your local post office and ask about one. |